FNG Questions

[probchld1953]

Just found this site and love it. Hope my planned project fits in here, and you can answer some questions for me.

1. Can I use just on of the front leaf springs in a cross frame configuration like a T Bucket?
2. With the extreme kick ups some of you are using, doesn't that put a lot of stree on the frame and how do you do it safely.

Thanks in advance, and here is a crude pic of my planned ride.

[Bonehead]

The regular leaf springs probably wont work, because they are offset to the center pin, or they have different ends on them. I suggest a front spring from an aftermarket company like Speedway.com. or one of many others. They are not too high priced for the quality.
The frame question is much harder to answer. I suggest you study up on some custom frames on this and other sites. If you can't fabricate, don't try to make your first project your frame. Welcome to the site

[LordMaximo]

Just found this site and love it. Hope my planned project fits in here, and you can answer some questions for me.

1. Can I use just on of the front leaf springs in a cross frame configuration like a T Bucket?
2. With the extreme kick ups some of you are using, doesn't that put a lot of stree on the frame and how do you do it safely.

Thanks in advance, and here is a crude pic of my planned ride.

Your funny new guy....lol.......I can see you are truly a greenhorn...:rolleyes:
No offence intended......good question on the chassis. Actually, your chassis is like a basket with things attached toit. When a chassis built, it is built with apurpose intended. The "Z" in the chassis is mechanically sound when welded properly. It is the same as it came from the factory, only with a mild center of gravity relocation. These "Z" sections actually make the ride a safer unit. By lower your center of gravity, you increase the ability of a more stable ride being lower to the ground. And to actually answer the question, NO....there is no more stress on the chassis then when it was in the OEM design. Most the time a mod is designed to be benificial and adds greater support over thge OEM build. You should always calculate the wieght factor of these older frames when adding a larger engine other then the OEM builds. We can go into this deeper, but this is not the time for now. There are tech sections available to help you understand the concepts of these builds.
If you need more info.....we are all here to help you build a safe ride.
Welcome to the forum Prob53.........:eek::D Maximo

[oldskoolmini]

hey check out this rendering I did. It might look a little better.

[probchld1953]

Hey, Nice job. I like the old style wheels with caps, and it is a lot lower, like I would like to get it. Looks like the top is chopped too. Hadn't thought of that. Again, Nice Job.

[oldskoolmini]

thanks man. I wish I had photoshop so I could do it better.:D

[LordMaximo]

There are some really good share ware programs on the "cnet.com site" that offer up more possiblilities over the standard MSpaint program.
And if you have a digi camera, they usually have a photo shop program for editing your pictures. Good luck :D
Maximo

[Appalachian Engineer]

Cool idea with the Samauri! A "Hemi" 4 banger would also be cool! As far as the frame, you might just be able to fit that body on a pre-fabbed chassis like this one:
http://www.tperformance.com/street_rod_store/chassis/1926-1927_model_t_fully_welded_chassis/

There's no kick-up, but you just put the chassis up into the body more? You may even be able to find one used if you look??? Just a suggestions:cool:

[41/ls1]

Why don't you use the stock frame and just modify the front for a cross leaf spring and tube axel.You can get a complete assy. from Speedway cheaper than you can scroung the various parts. The stock frame is very strong. I have a 4.2 Buick in mine with a 700R4. I have never had any troble with the frame or suspension.

[probchld1953]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I just made a deal for a straight front axel today that is under a two wheel drive Sammy. Gonna drag it home next weekend. Hey 41, do you have any picks of yours.? Thanks again.

[41/ls1]

Here is a few pics. of the engine swap. I call the thing Frankenzuki

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/swordeandd/NewImageSmall4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/swordeandd/NewImageSmall3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/swordeandd/NewImageSmall-1.jpg

[Alienbaby17]

I think I missed something.

AE says, "Cool idea with the Samauri!"
But I can't find what he was referring to.

Then PC1953 says, "Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I just made a deal for a straight front axel today that is under a two wheel drive Sammy. Gonna drag it home next weekend. Hey 41, do you have any picks of yours.? Thanks again."

I haven't heard of anyone using Samurai parts before. What's desireable about them? IS it the front end or the whole frame?

Jay

[probchld1953]

Don't know what is good about them except I like wierd or different stuff. They do have a real short, but pretty strong frame. Had seen some with V8's stuffed in them, and liked the way the Tin Top looks. Sort of like a 29 sedan in a strange kind of way. I submitted the first rendering and it was updated by oldschoolmini. He did a great job. I know this aint a Zuki kind of site, but it is a dare to be different site, so I thought it would fit in. Here is both pics together.

[Alienbaby17]

OK- I get it.
I never looked at the first picture closely enough to notice that it was Samurai based.
That's cool. I've been looking for some potentially more modern, "ready-to-go" chassis to use as the basis for a jalopy project.
I'd possibly been thinking about an old 2 wheel drive postal Jeep as a basis.

Thanks for clarifying.

Jay

[41/ls1]

Here is the body that we are talking about, kind of looks like a shrunk model A. You wouldn't want to use the front sheetmetal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/swordeandd/NewImageSmall5.jpg

[toolman]

Hey probcld1953
The Samurai is a great idea.1 they are cheap,2 they already have a 2x4 boxed frame and 3 they do resemble an old sedan!
Go for it!Here are some pics of my zukes from the past that I built for trail and rock crawling.The black and yellow one "BOGGERAI" I built with a 283 sbc on 44" boggers! The green one "XS-PARTS has a regular 4 cylinder.And they both held up to my excessive abuse!