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Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 05:42 AM
...to work with stock wheel studs.

When I bought them (used) they came with centers that were 1.5" thick. There were no threads on the wheel stud beyond the hole in the wheel. They were only held on by the threads in the lug nut shank....nothing in the head of the lug nut.

I fixed that. I had pockets milled into the wheels to get full thread engagement. I now have little windows where the lug holes hit the center hole, but that is minor compared to failing lug nuts at highway speeds.

before
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/Photo058.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/Photo059.jpg
after
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/Photo061.jpg
with nuts
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0015-3.jpg

Ace 666
12-21-2011, 06:20 AM
Might have been easier to use longer lug bolts , however what you have done looks good to me . For the first 500/1000 miles you might want to pull the wheels ocasionaly to see if any thing is splitting or failing in any way . Don't know why the manufacturer picked 1.5 inches as the thickness . I would think that 1.5 inch thickness would make most stock lug bolts too short . You ought to call them and see what they have to say . Let us know what they say as this could be a safety issue .

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 06:49 AM
Might have been easier to use longer lug bolts , however what you have done looks good to me . For the first 500/1000 miles you might want to pull the wheels ocasionaly to see if any thing is splitting or failing in any way . Don't know why the manufacturer picked 1.5 inches as the thickness . I would think that 1.5 inch thickness would make most stock lug bolts too short . You ought to call them and see what they have to say . Let us know what they say as this could be a safety issue .

The wheels are still .800" thick under the lug nuts. They should still be plenty beefy.

junkman1jmc
12-21-2011, 08:23 AM
i like them wheels too hahaha

Ace 666
12-21-2011, 08:30 AM
The wheels are still .800" thick under the lug nuts. They should still be plenty beefy.

I agree ,the .800" should be enough . Just wondering why they would make a wheel that was not gonna work in most applications . There had to be a reason . May bee they tried it with a thinner hole and it failed , may bee the wheels came with a disclaimer that you didn't get with the used wheels . Not pickin on your workmanship or way of solving the problem . Just seems strange they would do this .

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 08:54 AM
I agree ,the .800" should be enough . Just wondering why they would make a wheel that was not gonna work in most applications . There had to be a reason . May bee they tried it with a thinner hole and it failed , may bee the wheels came with a disclaimer that you didn't get with the used wheels . Not pickin on your workmanship or way of solving the problem . Just seems strange they would do this .

The wheels were designed for chevy trucks 5 x 5.5 bolt pattern. Somebody building a Dakota for the SEMA show wanted a set. The way they did it was half-assed if you ask me.

The guy I bought the wheels from was not the builder of the truck. He didn't like them and sold them cheap.

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 09:10 AM
i like them wheels too hahaha

fronts are 17x7, rears are 18x9.5

They should look cool on the 41 dodge pick-up.

This is what they looked like in the ebay ad....5 years ago!!!!!

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/6f42_3.jpg

70_Fastback
12-21-2011, 09:59 AM
Just curious, how come you didn't just pop the old studs out and put in longer ones?

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 10:57 AM
Just curious, how come you didn't just pop the old studs out and put in longer ones?

Nobody makes longer studs for the front of a 2001 dodge dakota.

justsomeguy
12-21-2011, 11:25 AM
What? Why not, what's so special about them?

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 11:42 AM
What? Why not, what's so special about them?

The unit bearing that they use is too big in relation to the bolt pattern. The head on the back side of the stud has a half moon cut out of it.

I figured that it was safer to recess the lugs than grind on the wheel studs.

http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=369657&imageurl=http%3A//info.rockauto.com/Wagner/BD125933_TOP.jpg

justsomeguy
12-21-2011, 12:02 PM
No way man. I would have modified new studs. Get them to a machine shop and have some milling done. Would've only cost a couple bucks per stud. As long as the knurled part is the same diameter, you'd be good to go.

Flipper_1938
12-21-2011, 12:19 PM
No way man. I would have modified new studs. Get them to a machine shop and have some milling done. Would've only cost a couple bucks per stud. As long as the knurled part is the same diameter, you'd be good to go.

Oh well, I guess it is just 92 more pounds of aluminum going to china.

Flipper_1938
12-31-2011, 10:16 PM
With the knock-off center caps
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0172.jpg

and the tires that will go on them. 215/50/17 front and 285/60/18 rear. The Dodge should have a pretty good rake to it!
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0126-1.jpg

chevyrunsdeep
01-01-2012, 07:28 AM
how about a shank lug its made for rims that are thick

Flipper_1938
01-01-2012, 07:54 AM
how about a shank lug its made for rims that are thick

A shank lug that does not have a stud long enough to reach the hex of the lug nut is unsafe!

If someone over-torques the lug, the shank continues to screw into the hole but the hex stops at the wheel and the thin walled shank stretches between the point the stud threads end and hex load surface. If the lug nuts fail, you don't have anything holding the wheel on. You just have shanks left on the stud.

Either the lugs needed to be recessed so they could fully engage the studs or the studs need to come out to fully engage the lugs (longer studs).

Flipper_1938
01-15-2012, 07:33 PM
The lugs fit like I planned.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0186-2.jpg

The socket just barely has clearance

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0191-2.jpg

With tires

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0198-3.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/Flipper_1938/IMG_0200-3.jpg

Flipper_1938
06-07-2014, 10:40 AM
The story continues....

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2923/14274218451_3602bcc83e_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/39113630@N02/14274218451/)
IMG_6469 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/39113630@N02/14274218451/) by Flipper_1938 (https://www.flickr.com/people/39113630@N02/), on Flickr

olddave
06-08-2014, 01:49 PM
millions of mag wheels were built wit counter sunk lug holes like you did to these wheels

and I never heard of any failures credited to the thinner area under the nut.


they look great on there.

now finish it and drive p____ out of it.

and get back to Rufus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!